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Freedom Not In Jeopardy

by Jon
Harvard's pre-eminent political scientist, James Q. Wilson, addresses the supposed dangers to our constitutional liberties
Some people fear that the war against terrorism will mean an unacceptable loss in American freedoms. No doubt that could happen, but, so far, it hasn't--and there is little evidence that it is about to.

Let us start by reminding ourselves of what has not happened. Unlike after World War I, Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft has not whipped up a scare campaign against Muslims as Atty. Gen. A. Mitchell Palmer did against "reds." Unlike in World War II, President Bush has not ordered the removal of people of Near Eastern origin to internment camps in the California desert as President Franklin D. Roosevelt did with people of Japanese ancestry. Unlike the 1950s, no senator has urged the weeding out of Islamic spies from inside our government as Sen. Joseph McCarthy demanded with respect to Soviet agents. Unlike the 1960s and 1970s, the FBI has not used unauthorized wiretaps to gather and spread harmful information about potential terrorists as it once did with respect to political radicals.

What is now at issue are Ashcroft's efforts to improve legislative support for law-enforcement investigations of terrorists and their allies. That bill, now being discussed in Congress, would do several things, most of which will have no effect on American liberties. If passed, it would:

Allow one federal district court to issue an order authorizing the "trapping" of phone or cell numbers anywhere in the United States. A "trap" or "pen register" is a way of finding out what telephone or electronic address was called by a suspect. It does not authorize listening in on the conversation. The federal government can now trap calls, but it has to seek district-court authority in all 50 states. Allowing one court to authorize it saves on shoe leather.
Broaden the reach of the special court that authorizes wiretaps on persons who are believed to be agents of a foreign power. Currently, the government must believe that gathering foreign intelligence is "the" purpose of its inquiry. Ashcroft would like it extended so that intelligence gathering is "a" part of its effort. Some criticize this because the court is "secret," but all applications for wiretaps are secret. That is, if we propose to tap the lines of a Mafia boss, we don't tell the boss in advance. The special court that handles foreign-intelligence wiretaps meets in a bug-proof room, not to make it more secret than ordinary wiretap courts, but to shield it from the kind of sophisticated bugging that a foreign government might employ.
Allow information obtained about foreign intelligence efforts in this country to be shared more widely among federal agencies. As a practical matter, this pretty much happens now; the proposed law only makes it entirely proper.
Authorize the attorney general to detain "terrorist aliens" (the bill expands the definition of terrorist activity) indefinitely pending deportation proceedings and centralize judicial review of such cases in the district court for the District of Columbia.
Abolish any statute of limitations on terrorist prosecutions and allow federal courts to sentence persons convicted of terrorism for any term up to life in prison.
Ban the private possession of any biological agent that poses a security threat unless it is clearly held for peaceful purposes.
The deaths of several thousand innocent Americans in New York and Washington will probably guarantee passage of a new law. There are several desirable changes in the administration's proposal now under consideration. One is to tighten the expansion of foreign intelligence wiretaps and warrants so that intelligence gathering is a "significant" purpose of the investigation. This change will protect the law from being used to gather information with which to prosecute any person suspected only of ordinary criminal activity.

Another change is to ensure that the government cannot, without protecting essential rights, detain indefinitely any terrorist alien or deport any alien legally here who contributes to a group that later may have been called a terrorist organization. To be sure, the federal district court in Washington can hear habeas corpus petitions that will require the government to show cause why the alien is held, but it is not clear on what legal grounds the court can decide the matter.

Under long-standing Supreme Court rules, the executive branch has broad authority over aliens, but that authority has some limits. The Internal Security Act of 1950 allowed the attorney general to detain aliens who were members of the Communist Party, and to do so without allowing them bail. But, in general, a detained alien has a right to a fair hearing. What constitutes a fair hearing? On this the Supreme Court has generally been silent, but a new law that widens the attorney general's powers over aliens would be a good place to set forth some reasonable standards that might guide the district court when it reviews detention.

We must also be careful in how easy it may be to label a person a "terrorist" if he or she has ever contributed money to a group some part of which once engaged in an activity that a federal official can call "terrorist." Though difficult to do well, it is essential that we not restrict freedom of association.

House and Senate committees have reached a bipartisan agreement on this bill that would allow the government to detain an immigrant for no more than seven days without bringing charges, provided the government had "reasonable grounds" for suspecting that person of being a terrorist. It would also make the expanded wiretap authority expire in two years unless renewed by Congress.

Though new laws need careful scrutiny, what is impressive is that the most terrible attack on American soil that has ever occurred has not unleashed a wave of officially ignored (or worse, officially endorsed) hate activity. It has instead brought forth an effort to fix problems in law enforcement that should have been fixed long ago. The police cannot go on acting as if cell phones, the Internet and voicemail don't exist. As long as we trust our courts to supervise police inquiries, those should be as broad as the technology on which they are based.
by rebelgirl (lagutaris [at] yahoo.com)
I am a middle-aged white woman who grew up believing all of that Ayn Rand objectivist bunk. Objectivism is system based upon the idea that the playing field is level for all participants in society. Anyone whose head is up out of the sand can tell you that it just ain't so. You have to ignore massive evidence otherwise to maintain this. Outside of corporate media, it is painfully obvious that systemic racism, sexism, and the denial of class-based differences create large-scale suffering. Objectivism simply reinforces the illegitimate power that elite white males hold over society.

Jon obviously has not studied history beyond the bs they teach in high school.

Further, James Q. Wilson has a vested interest in maintaining the system status quo. He is part of it and despite some good insights he is a racist.

I went back to school in 1996 and studied law and society. The theoretical materials confirmed my insights into the terrible wrongs of our societal, economic and political structures. I still wasn't sure that we lived in a police state though until I spent nine days in Los Angeles during the Democratic National Convention. There I saw innocent people fired on with rubber bullets, and other violations of civil rights and liberties too numerous to mention.

The assertions of this person are incredible. The police do illegal things every day and this only makes it easier for them to do so, now in overt cooperation with the military. We live in covert fascism now and such stuff as the Ayn Rand Institute puts out enhance it. Our system is all about allowing only ineffective free speech to make it to corporate media.

Check out what happened at the DNC at my website.
by aaron
Ayn Randism and objectivism (a ham-handed after-thought of a philosophy that is meant to justify and give moral coherence to misanthropic market "libertarianism") views the formal freedoms of capitalism as the highest expression of human freedom. To Randist arch-believers of laissez-faire capitalism, a maquiladora worker who slaves away 50 hours a week at a rate of 75 cents an hour in a toxic working environment is exercising freedom because he or she, in a formal sense, "volunteers" to labor under such conditions. The fact that starvation or absolute, miserable destitution is the alternative is of no apparent concern to the objectivist stalwart. Nor are the material conditions (40% unemployment, the fact that most arable land is owned by a tiny percentage of the population, the utter evisceration of anything approximating a "social safety net" etc etc) that drive a person to "accept" such exploitation. Indeed, these material conditions are the unquestionable by-product of freedom as expressed through the capitalist market. Further, if the worker in the maquiladora has the temerity to group together with his or her fellow wage-slaves to make demands upon the bosses, you can be sure that the Randist will denounce such activity as heresy, an attempt to form a labor monopoly of some sort intruding on the rights of private property....
Anyway, my drunk communist friends (whom care not at all about private property) have arrived and so i'm outta here.
by Jon
none of those "replies" actually addresses the substance of what i posted.

rather then addressing what James Q Wilson said, previous posters launched ad hominem attacks against both me and wilson, and then changed the subject entirely to ayn rand and objectivism.

if you actually have something to say, i.e. a direct refutation of wilson, then by all means post it.

as for Mr. Wilson, the man was one of harvard's top politicial scientists, up there with stanley hoffman and samuel huntington. its interesting how mainstream and conservative academics are a "part of the system" whereas tenured left radicals like June Jordan, with her 6 figure salary, are somehow still rebels.
by anon
there are over 700 people detained since 9/11, no one knows who they are, and they can not be contacted.

the current legislation that just passed allows for many scary things, such as secret searches of people's houses, and tracking of people's web habits, including email headers - which could be argued includes a certain amount of content information. not to mention, an incredibly broad definition of terrorism, that could easily be used to silence political dissent.
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