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Beneath the surface- Artistic expression or Cultural insensitivity- To Remember
Display of Nazi Swaztika in Photographic Display in Santa Cuz Cafe Pergalesi
A space to find community, a space to find relaxation and a space to feel at ease would be a place that I recognize in our community. I was deeply concerned and felt a sense of insensitivity when I viewed a photgraphic complilation upon the walls of Cafe Pergalesi which pictured a Nazi swatzsika blazing across the scene of what looked to be someone's bedroom.
Furthermore- it depicts an injustice that was perpetrated against an entire people which took the lives of over 6 million people of diverse backgrounds.
Do we welcome this artistic art form in our spaces of peace? I am very distubed by this image and wonder what the motivation might be to represent such a bombastic display of utter war and a symbol of persecution of the human race?
To bring this concern out to the greater community means that I stand to represent a cry from past and to remember the pains of past generations and not stay in silence but to rebuke this sinister representation.
Furthermore- it depicts an injustice that was perpetrated against an entire people which took the lives of over 6 million people of diverse backgrounds.
Do we welcome this artistic art form in our spaces of peace? I am very distubed by this image and wonder what the motivation might be to represent such a bombastic display of utter war and a symbol of persecution of the human race?
To bring this concern out to the greater community means that I stand to represent a cry from past and to remember the pains of past generations and not stay in silence but to rebuke this sinister representation.
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i'm just curious as to the intention of the photograph, and i question if it was indeed a nazi swaztika or a similar symbol...
the figure that was adopted by and is generally recognized as the nazi swaztika dates very far back and was used in many similar forms for many different people (culturally speaking)...
it's important in such a crazy time as we're all living now to stop and analyze situations and question the intent before reacting...
the figure that was adopted by and is generally recognized as the nazi swaztika dates very far back and was used in many similar forms for many different people (culturally speaking)...
it's important in such a crazy time as we're all living now to stop and analyze situations and question the intent before reacting...
It is clearly a Nazi flag, not any other symbol.
A nazi swastika, or a swastika?
You can tell by its orientation...
...Regardless, a symbol is just a symbol, people attach too much importance to them.
You can tell by its orientation...
...Regardless, a symbol is just a symbol, people attach too much importance to them.
It is a Nazi Swastika because it is part of a red and black Nazi flag.
Symbols are important; at this moment you are reading symbols. The Nazi swastika is a symbol that represents mass murder, slavery, imperialism, and corporate exploitation. It is a nasty symbol, still used today in graffiti vandalism and other forms in attempts to strike fear into people.
Symbols are important; at this moment you are reading symbols. The Nazi swastika is a symbol that represents mass murder, slavery, imperialism, and corporate exploitation. It is a nasty symbol, still used today in graffiti vandalism and other forms in attempts to strike fear into people.
I care. The person who made the original post cares. Others who responded seemed to care. Even you seem to care enough to respond to get people not to care.
Well, "art" can have as many meanings or as few meanings as you make of it--this particular piece could be condemning the bourgeois lifestyle as the fertilizer of fascism, or it could be a Neo-Nazi propaganda piece. Either way, my reaction isn't a pathetic plea for "sensitivity" or an outraged demand for censorship. One last word: if it bothers you so much, smash it!
DADA says, "Well, "art" can have as many meanings or as few meanings as you make of it--this particular piece could be condemning the bourgeois lifestyle as the fertilizer of fascism, or it could be a Neo-Nazi propaganda piece." I am in full agreement with this.
Yet DADA goes on to say, “Either way, my reaction isn't a pathetic plea for "sensitivity" or an outraged demand for censorship.” Nobody here has called for censorship, and I see nothing pathetic about the call for sensitivity by the person going by the name “humanity”.
By the way, I would also like to explain that my previous response was to somebody who said that nobody cares. What that person said was deleted, so my response looks a bit out of place.
Yet DADA goes on to say, “Either way, my reaction isn't a pathetic plea for "sensitivity" or an outraged demand for censorship.” Nobody here has called for censorship, and I see nothing pathetic about the call for sensitivity by the person going by the name “humanity”.
By the way, I would also like to explain that my previous response was to somebody who said that nobody cares. What that person said was deleted, so my response looks a bit out of place.
What is pathetic about this “call to sensitivity” is that it is implying something is wrong with an art exhibit that happens to have a swastika in the background. This person has no idea what the piece is about, but comes here and acts indignant about it.
Just because something gets under your skin, doesn’t mean it is an injustice. I hope this author is not advocating the removal of the exhibit, regardless of the artists political intentions.
Just because something gets under your skin, doesn’t mean it is an injustice. I hope this author is not advocating the removal of the exhibit, regardless of the artists political intentions.
I can't speak for the author, but personally I find art that throws in a swastika without making a clear point pathetic, not the concerns of the author.
I saw the photo exhibit at Perg's. There are more than 30 photos in the exhibit. There is one photo which has a room with a suitcase on the bed and a flag with a swaztika on the wall. No person or other animal is seen in the photo. There is not an artist statement explaining the exhibit, but the photographer's contact info is there for people to give feedback.
I believe the photos are of local (Santa Cruz) places and people. To me, the photograph with a swaztika flag on the wall is a fair representation of what really does exist in the city and mountains of Santa Cruz. I do not like seeing nazis or swaztikas, but I'm glad I had the chance to check out the photos.
I believe the photos are of local (Santa Cruz) places and people. To me, the photograph with a swaztika flag on the wall is a fair representation of what really does exist in the city and mountains of Santa Cruz. I do not like seeing nazis or swaztikas, but I'm glad I had the chance to check out the photos.
I told Argue not to bother with this shit, but now the stupid people are pissing me off!
Simply put, I believe that photos of local (Santa Cruz) places and people should not casually slip in a Swastika. The fucking Nazis get enough local (Santa Cruz) support as it is, fuck putting them up in coffee shops!
Wake up! It should not take a swastika to get you to think! I cannot forget seeing one painted across the garage of a mixed race couple that lived across the alley from me that was accompanied by death threats on their phone against them. Fuck the “artistic” expression of fascists in their bedrooms and sympathetic café owners that help them spread the hate!
Simply put, I believe that photos of local (Santa Cruz) places and people should not casually slip in a Swastika. The fucking Nazis get enough local (Santa Cruz) support as it is, fuck putting them up in coffee shops!
Wake up! It should not take a swastika to get you to think! I cannot forget seeing one painted across the garage of a mixed race couple that lived across the alley from me that was accompanied by death threats on their phone against them. Fuck the “artistic” expression of fascists in their bedrooms and sympathetic café owners that help them spread the hate!
Jay, don’t be so damn self righteous and ridiculous. Do you honestly think that Pergolesi’s is some kind of Neo-Nazi recruitment station? Heck, do you even think that this exhibit is somehow supporting that cause? If you really are so offended by the image appearing in an art exhibit in a café, you really need to reassess your priorities.
You are right, it doesn’t “take a swastika to get you to think”, but you should at least start to do so.
You are right, it doesn’t “take a swastika to get you to think”, but you should at least start to do so.
The call of sensitivity is a human call: a subjective one for that matter. It is a voice that speaks volumes for the suffering under a symbol- A NAZi Swatztika evokes this message. The implication that it is pathetic or wrong is in turn is another human's call-i.e. another voice indeed bringing it right into the realm of, black and white thinking.
I will continue to express my reflection in a manner that is very open to interpretion and appreciate the intriguing comments thus far.
I will continue to express my reflection in a manner that is very open to interpretion and appreciate the intriguing comments thus far.
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